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WhatsApp Messenger. Talking Tom Cat. Clash of Clans. Subway Surfers. Since we have not heard when the updated Live Sync will ship as a final product, we also don't know when the existing Live Mesh infrastructure will be shut down.

I am sure, however, that there will be a reasonable period of overlap - probably at least a few months - before Live Mesh will stop working entirely after Live Sync is released. Well, one option for you might be the native Windows Remote Desktop functionality, though it won't work on Home editions of XP.

For sync, many people have been recommending Dropbox as an option. I've not used it, so can't comment. I'm in a similar situation and I really hope that's not the final word.

So at the moment I not only have to look for alternatives for syncing and remote desktop, this also keeps me from upgrading my private PC to the new Live Suite. This decision is IMHO just plain stupid. I believe that it is the final word, unfortunately.

I have 3 machines, including a netbook, still on XP, so I feel your pain. I can upgrade 2 of the machines, but the netbook will be painful to upgrade. I still don't understand why XP is not included in Live Mesh. I also understand that XP is at the end of its life cycle but not to include it is a slap in the face to alot of faithful users.

Microsoft won't include versions of its own operating system that users have paid for but it will include support for MAC users that Microsoft didn't get a dime from. Just when I actually begin using Microsoft services again after many years of no longer even being on my radar, they do this. Oh well, it's back to Microsoft not even being a last choice, but no choice at all. I'd even started using Hotmail again. Thank goodness for Google and Dropbox.

Edit: Add Opera to those two. Microsoft, believe it or not, I can live without you just fine. You're not the only game in town, and far from being the best. Support for XP will end down the road. I imagine the logic is that Windows Live Essentials is an add-on only made available to the latest 2 versions of Windows, Vista and 7. The Mac client is a different story. Note that it only supports the latest version of OSX, too. Have an early version of OSX on an old iMac?

You'd be out of luck, too. Your files will also stop syncing between your computers and your Live Mesh online storage I also found the following somewhere [1] and quoted same in an email to one of my clients who are running Windows Live Sync on their WinXP computers:.

By the way, I use GoodSync Pro happily on my work machines and for some extensive local synchronization of data. I have to admit this blows, MS can't be this dumb.

Why should we trust you and move to Live Mesh ? Only to be dropped again by Live Mesh It would be like the mistress marrying a cheating husband and then being surprised when he eventually cheats on her. An appeal to Microsoft Management. Please factor in the cost to your users of development decisions. How many man centuries have you cost the planet. If the mesh team had been briefed to support a reasonable range of OS's this wouldn't have happened. The cost, to Microsoft, of this will last for many years.

There's a lot of us out here who have literally wasted years of our lives with technologies that get dumped OR go wrong like this. Please don't turn people who support your products into hostiles! Truly amazed! XP users of Mesh and Sync are not going to suddenly upgrade to W7 because of this. They will seek other solutions. I accept that. And I accept that some programs may not work on Vista 10 years from now. Please don't turn people who support your products into hostiles.

While we don't expect to be able to do everything that we could on Windows 7 and Live Web Apps there should be some level of 'Graceful Degradation' as there are on accessible websites and I actually don't understand how this can be - surely it's all written in C.

Are XP machines not perfectly capable of this?! The point is that much of that discussion could be avoided by forward thinking managerial action. At the start of development the team is told what OS's to support.

This could be achieved with a standard list of OS's, deviations must be justified, up front. I'm pretty sure that one issue is that code has been developed with a limited OS spectrum in mind, and is then fossilised to the chosen OS's. Sounds to me like the Microsoft spinners are hard at work.

I remember XP was released it was to replace the "ancient and insecure" Windows I have an install-base of many hundreds of XP Pro workstations across several larger clients. They choose Windows7 when buying new boxes, but the upgrade path from XP to Win7 involves serious hardware consideration. They could call it "Windows 7 XP Edition". This is the problem with that Line. The Netbook is where I need synching and Microsoft needs to stop support 5 years AFTER they take thier last dollar of revenue from it not months.

This is a problem for MS.. Now this trend it appears to be moving for "one versions and out" impatience that keeps people from even considering MS tools for versions to its Core OS line..

Buy a new machine with XP and 18 months later Abandoned. You can't stop progress. That's life. We accept that new OS and new apps are released to make better use of new and faster hardware. Long may things continue getting better, faster, more capable, more intuitive.

The next release of LiveSync, now part of Live Mesh, won't run on older platforms. OK, that's fine. So I won't benefit from the new features until I upgrade. The old LiveSync currently works fine on my "ancient and insecure" Windows XP and Server platforms spread throughout the country.

I accept that it doesn't have the new-fangled whiz-bang features of Live Mesh, and that's my fault for not investing? All in good time, no doubt. I have no choice in this matter. And I have little more than 5 months to upgrade or find an alternative. For many, this process has only just begun, having delayed bulk migration due to the Vista saga.

If Microsoft chooses to make a new service available for users of their latest operating systems, Vista and Windows 7, again - for free - and not for XP or any other flavor of Windows, that's their choice. You didn't pay for Live Sync and Live mesh has never been a production service. Here's the issue The world has become used to apparently free services more than ever before.

The truth is that a paid service is typically a much better deal for the customer. It gives you some control. For test users free as defined here is often a load of nonsense. A conscientious tester can easily spend effort worth far more than 10 years of a paid membership in what he does. Bug reports , testing time , rolling it out over a network and framing your realizations about design mistakes can eat up a lot of effort and time.

Prevent normal work from happening! A wise product development company, nurtures it's best testers, rewards them in ways that they want and does all it can to encourage them to participate even more in future.

I have no idea how much value was added by testers of these systems, but it looks from the tone of comments here that you should seriously review any inclination to get too involved in testing.

It seems that MS has taken on board attitudes formed in some lesser companies and diluted it's best talent with then. Sometimes till you can't even see the talent any more. Just been to a client's and whilst installing a new windows 7 PC I noticed that it had Live Mesh not beta.

I was about to show the client how it worked as I had tested it on his other PC XP one yesterday which worked fine. Anyway I thought lets uninstall the beta one and install the new one just to make sure there are no compatible issues. Yes it was at this point I discovered it doesn't work. Sign in at www. Here is the problem I have with this approach.

I had to go through a couple of hours to get live essentials back to version because it did not work on my Vista machine. Now I cannot use Mesh, because I cannot load mesh as a stand alone product without upgrading everything else which does not work. If you are going to force a choice to upgrade then the choice should work.

What is more bundling software this way is a sure model to get people to look elsewhere. The reason it is free though is not because of the consumers, but because MS wants to get a share of the market their competitors have taken from them over the last several years. It is this approach here that caused many to look for alternatives with paid software. Now doing with free software is pushing the ones that stuck with MS to other alternatives further eroding your market share.

It is just bad business. That's my 2 cents. I'm not sure of your reasoning about free vs. I'm just one insignificant data point, but I'm voting with my wallet on this one. Microsoft has over the past couple of years just lost my trust, with lots of strange strategic decisions. Oh and I forgot to mention, the rot set in when I paid for a Vista upgrade, then had to reformat my hard-drive to go back to XP.

But Microsoft just prefer to pull the plug. I just don't trust Microsoft any more. I certainly will not be using their ludicrous cloud service - how do I know they won't just pull the plug on that too, leaving my data stranded? Well if a company wants to attract my business with a free service, but then force me to chose an option that does not work, then it is a bad business model in my estimation.

I tried windowslivehelp when it was in beta same problem without resolution. What is more, I do not have several hours to work with MS fixing their free software that is why I went back to WL when beta did not work. I had hoped that the bug was gone with the release of , but alas it did not. There are other problems as well. Just "google it" and you will find that live essentials is replete with bugs, complaints, and problems.

To announce that you are sunsetting one product in favor of another sync to mesh before the new product has been barely available and bugs are understood let alone fixed is poor business whether software is free or paid. MS is not developing free software as some public good. They have a goal in mind to be sure. There is a model that will lead to increased profits down the road. I am saying if it is to be a good model for future business MS needs to listen to its customers.

Stephen you're doing a valiant job holding the line here. As you've said here you're not involved in the meetings that decide these things. I for one would really appreciate it if I knew that this issue was in front of decision makers. Not just decision makers for this product category, but all of them. Years ago I had a sense that Microsoft was run by technical people, who were smart, and that the awesome complexity was all held in the RAM of at least one man. Result: complex and really hard decisions made and often right on the money.

A spectacular achievement. Now I see signs that consumer oriented flim flam artists get too much input into decisions. True you can get way with treating some of the mass market like morons.

Here we're talking technical users and it's much harder to get away with it! I'd dearly like to know what's going on to improve management of product development. A post telling us what attention is being paid , would be appreciated. Dropping the veil of secrecy wouldn't be a bad idea either I know you are not behind that veil either. If you have some feedback on what attention is being paid, please post about it. BJ, you still didn't tell me what your issue was.

I encountered a problem with the removal of Live mesh beta from one machine and on another Messenger didn't install properly. I fixed both, though. I know that some people can and will have problems upgrading, installing, etc. If I had insight into those details I would not be allowed to reveal it.

So, I don't know the specifics, but I do know that the decisions made were the result of many long discussions, lots of analysis, and some disagreement - as all decisions of this sort are made. Steve: I am sorry I feel like I have hijacked this thread. I think you hit the nail on the head. Does MS want to attract consumers that have little or no technical expertise? They are going to have to change their business model then.

You have the expertise and can fix problems. The average computer user it is a mystery. Their mindset is if it does not work buy a new computer. Change is not bad if it improves the previous condition. But when change makes things worse eg elimanting the majority of users of windows in the business world xp ability to use your product, bundled programs that do not play nice together Essentials Live then yes people hate that kind of change.

Thank you for listening to the rant. And with Windows 8, Windows RT, Windows Phone 8, the new Office and tons of other apps and websites that build on the SkyDrive APIs, your SkyDrive is now deeply integrated into devices and apps in a way that makes saving to the cloud, or using your cloud files, simple and seamless.

With the significant investments in bringing the DNA of Mesh together with SkyDrive, there are now over million people that have used SkyDrive, and more and more are making the move every day. So while Windows Live Mesh was at one point used by a few million people, most have made the move and there are now less than 25, active users of Windows Live Mesh.

To save your files to SkyDrive, install SkyDrive on your computers and mobile devices. Already built into Windows PCs, Remote Desktop Connection offers the same functionality that Mesh offered and is compatible with the following operating systems:. You can transfer files, print remotely, or keep computers up to date from any device.

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